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		<title>By: Jimmy&#8217;s Junkyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jensen Copper Foil Paper-In-Oil Ceramic Tube Capacitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy&#8217;s Junkyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jensen Copper Foil Paper-In-Oil Ceramic Tube Capacitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Below are some reading which could be interesting: Battle of 3 Capacitors Extreme Capacitor Battle 1st Session Extreme Capacitor Battle 2nd Session [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Extreme Capacitors Battle @ Jimmy&#8217;s Junkyard &#187; Kim Nørrebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Extreme Capacitors Battle @ Jimmy&#8217;s Junkyard &#187; Kim Nørrebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Extreme Capacitors Battle (1st Session) - Extreme Capacitors Battle (2nd Session) - - Jensen [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Auw Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auw Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jan,
I think RS242 is not as good as RS241, but YMMV.
Meanwhile, never heard E.130 before, so hardly to comment.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jan,<br />
I think RS242 is not as good as RS241, but YMMV.<br />
Meanwhile, never heard E.130 before, so hardly to comment.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Soldan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Soldan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jimmy. I have one question not directly related with your impressive capacitor comparison. On the way to ideal tube amp I think you are in Indonesia very forward. Mentioned RS241 looks very popular. Do you try or do you hear another friends experiences with substitution RS241 by RS242 or another tubes, like E.130. Technically there are very close, but I don’t know anything about sound differences.
Thanks a lot. Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jimmy. I have one question not directly related with your impressive capacitor comparison. On the way to ideal tube amp I think you are in Indonesia very forward. Mentioned RS241 looks very popular. Do you try or do you hear another friends experiences with substitution RS241 by RS242 or another tubes, like E.130. Technically there are very close, but I don’t know anything about sound differences.<br />
Thanks a lot. Jan</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Auw</title>
		<link>http://jimmyauw.com/2009/08/18/extreme-capacitors-battle-2nd-session/comment-page-1/#comment-124228</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Auw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stefano,
Been at your blog for quite long time, since I receive a back-link from your blog to.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stefano,<br />
Been at your blog for quite long time, since I receive a back-link from your blog to.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jimmy!

I&#039;m in debt with you and your knowledge and passionate search... have a look to my Blog, at yr. convenience...
Thanks and greetings from Italy, and keep on the GOOD job, having good time;-)

Stefano</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jimmy!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in debt with you and your knowledge and passionate search&#8230; have a look to my Blog, at yr. convenience&#8230;<br />
Thanks and greetings from Italy, and keep on the GOOD job, having good time;-)</p>
<p>Stefano</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Auw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Auw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t have extra budget to go for VSF (and don&#039;t know where to use it if I don&#039;t like it).
So I only pick the best caps from each vendor (also you will ask why I didn&#039;t try VCap OIMP and Mundorf Silver/Oil or Silver/Gold?).

Anyway, I think I have mentioned that CAST only if price is not a matter for you. For price wise, I think we are all agree that Jensen Paper Tube should work best (despite of VSF which I never had on hand). Instead, I&#039;m ordering my CAST Silver and will be available within next 2 months. This should be more interesting than trying VSF which we all know, the performance is lower than CAST.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t have extra budget to go for VSF (and don&#8217;t know where to use it if I don&#8217;t like it).<br />
So I only pick the best caps from each vendor (also you will ask why I didn&#8217;t try VCap OIMP and Mundorf Silver/Oil or Silver/Gold?).</p>
<p>Anyway, I think I have mentioned that CAST only if price is not a matter for you. For price wise, I think we are all agree that Jensen Paper Tube should work best (despite of VSF which I never had on hand). Instead, I&#8217;m ordering my CAST Silver and will be available within next 2 months. This should be more interesting than trying VSF which we all know, the performance is lower than CAST.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Aradea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aradea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pak Jimmy, comparing the jensen paper tube with the duelund Cast pio
Is a bit unfair isn&#039;t it? Price wise..
Wht don&#039;t you compare it with the duelund VSF?
The price gap won&#039;t be that big
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pak Jimmy, comparing the jensen paper tube with the duelund Cast pio<br />
Is a bit unfair isn&#8217;t it? Price wise..<br />
Wht don&#8217;t you compare it with the duelund VSF?<br />
The price gap won&#8217;t be that big<br />
IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Auw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Auw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can try Jensen Paper Tube.
Thanks.</description>
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Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: karl luebke</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl luebke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello 
I read carefully your tests and comments .. 
I want your advice .. 
I want to change the capacitors in my phono solid-state and out of my dac 
what do you advise, except Duelund too expensive for me ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello<br />
I read carefully your tests and comments ..<br />
I want your advice ..<br />
I want to change the capacitors in my phono solid-state and out of my dac<br />
what do you advise, except Duelund too expensive for me ..</p>
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		<title>By: Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAST, definitely not...CAST is king.</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Auw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Auw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes thanks Face... But they are quite expensive, and I doubt they could beat my Duelund CAST for now...
If I got chance, perhaps, later, I will try it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes thanks Face&#8230; But they are quite expensive, and I doubt they could beat my Duelund CAST for now&#8230;<br />
If I got chance, perhaps, later, I will try it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Madisound in the US and CapsandCoils in the Nederlands carry Claritycaps.</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Auw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Auw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Face,
Thanks for your information. Too bad when I bought all caps from PCX, they didnt carry ClarityCap. Here in my country (Indonesia), hardly to find a good caps. So I need to buy overseas. From your description, I think the ESA could be similar to Jensen. But if I could recall my brain correctly, the MR also quite expensive.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Face,<br />
Thanks for your information. Too bad when I bought all caps from PCX, they didnt carry ClarityCap. Here in my country (Indonesia), hardly to find a good caps. So I need to buy overseas. From your description, I think the ESA could be similar to Jensen. But if I could recall my brain correctly, the MR also quite expensive.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reference to your recent cap comparisons. You should give the Claritycap ESA a try as a coupling cap. It doesn’t compare to Duelund of course, but it has a nice warm tone to it and is very affordable. They’re also very compact in size. For a little more transparency and a little more high end tilt, the Claritycap MR is also a great coupling cap. Both are also just as impressive in speaker crossovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to your recent cap comparisons. You should give the Claritycap ESA a try as a coupling cap. It doesn’t compare to Duelund of course, but it has a nice warm tone to it and is very affordable. They’re also very compact in size. For a little more transparency and a little more high end tilt, the Claritycap MR is also a great coupling cap. Both are also just as impressive in speaker crossovers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy&#8217;s Junkyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; VCap TFTF on Power Supply Test</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy&#8217;s Junkyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; VCap TFTF on Power Supply Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] match right with my current system (it prefers Duelund CAST PIO) - check the article here, here, and here. So what should I do with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] match right with my current system (it prefers Duelund CAST PIO) &#8211; check the article here, here, and here. So what should I do with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Auw</title>
		<link>http://jimmyauw.com/2009/08/18/extreme-capacitors-battle-2nd-session/comment-page-1/#comment-122974</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Auw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I always follow the capacitor mark, as suggested, even sometime I look for the polarity by myself.

S/G/O is a nice one. Even in my system, this caps is better than VCap. S/G/O still has the musicality (perhaps due to oil inside), while VCap is too revealing (or analytical?). I have used Mundorf S/G/O for my several application and it never disappoints me.

I soon to build my phono stage and I will give them a try. But I doubt I would like it. Phono stage tends to love vintage sound. I think Jensen or S/G/O could be there perfectly (have no budget to apply a Duelund again).

If someone says that you need a 600 hours, I think it&#039;s not a &quot;break-in&quot; time, but &quot;force to be getting used time&quot;. After 600 hours, your ears will adapt to the sound of it. This is definitely not a break-in time. I have done around 200 hours ++ (around 230-240). With 200 hours ++, I think I already heard around 75% of VCap. Actually I have heard VCap in my friend&#039;s pre-amp before - he already used it for 1.5 years, and it doesn&#039;t sound to different with my current 200 hours ++ findings - in terms of revealing sound. 

Oh don&#039;t forget, if you insist 600 hours break-in time, do you calculate how much &quot;cost&quot; (electricity bills?) which I have to pay before I can hear the real sound of it? Perhaps the cost-over-enjoyable will be the same with the Duelund? ;)

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I always follow the capacitor mark, as suggested, even sometime I look for the polarity by myself.</p>
<p>S/G/O is a nice one. Even in my system, this caps is better than VCap. S/G/O still has the musicality (perhaps due to oil inside), while VCap is too revealing (or analytical?). I have used Mundorf S/G/O for my several application and it never disappoints me.</p>
<p>I soon to build my phono stage and I will give them a try. But I doubt I would like it. Phono stage tends to love vintage sound. I think Jensen or S/G/O could be there perfectly (have no budget to apply a Duelund again).</p>
<p>If someone says that you need a 600 hours, I think it&#8217;s not a &#8220;break-in&#8221; time, but &#8220;force to be getting used time&#8221;. After 600 hours, your ears will adapt to the sound of it. This is definitely not a break-in time. I have done around 200 hours ++ (around 230-240). With 200 hours ++, I think I already heard around 75% of VCap. Actually I have heard VCap in my friend&#8217;s pre-amp before &#8211; he already used it for 1.5 years, and it doesn&#8217;t sound to different with my current 200 hours ++ findings &#8211; in terms of revealing sound. </p>
<p>Oh don&#8217;t forget, if you insist 600 hours break-in time, do you calculate how much &#8220;cost&#8221; (electricity bills?) which I have to pay before I can hear the real sound of it? Perhaps the cost-over-enjoyable will be the same with the Duelund? <img src='http://jimmyauw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc5036</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc5036</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have connect the v-cap in respect with mark?

If not, you could try to reverse &quot;polarity&quot; of the v-cap.

See &quot;test set-up&quot; in capacitor shoot-out on tempo electric web site (you have certainly already read this). Personnaly i have  mundor s/g/ oil in my amplifier and i&#039;am happy of the result. There is also asc x386-s in power supply and this seem to be a goob combo with this mundorf... I don&#039;t know the v-cap capacitor but i look it with interest for my phono stage. 

But it&#039;s thrue, capacitor appreciation depend of balance wished for the hifi system.

PS: Try to break-in v-cap again if you can, and speak about it with 600 hours old, i think that the result will be a bit better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have connect the v-cap in respect with mark?</p>
<p>If not, you could try to reverse &#8220;polarity&#8221; of the v-cap.</p>
<p>See &#8220;test set-up&#8221; in capacitor shoot-out on tempo electric web site (you have certainly already read this). Personnaly i have  mundor s/g/ oil in my amplifier and i&#8217;am happy of the result. There is also asc x386-s in power supply and this seem to be a goob combo with this mundorf&#8230; I don&#8217;t know the v-cap capacitor but i look it with interest for my phono stage. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s thrue, capacitor appreciation depend of balance wished for the hifi system.</p>
<p>PS: Try to break-in v-cap again if you can, and speak about it with 600 hours old, i think that the result will be a bit better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Auw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Auw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that some Teflon based requests for 400 hours, but I think it&#039;s overkill! I doubt it would change much from 200 to 400 hours. 

Anyway, the result was based on my system - which perhaps didn&#039;t quite match well with Teflon based. YMMV. But if you are looking for a revealing caps, then VCap or Mundorf S/G/O could be your perfect mate.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that some Teflon based requests for 400 hours, but I think it&#8217;s overkill! I doubt it would change much from 200 to 400 hours. </p>
<p>Anyway, the result was based on my system &#8211; which perhaps didn&#8217;t quite match well with Teflon based. YMMV. But if you are looking for a revealing caps, then VCap or Mundorf S/G/O could be your perfect mate.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc5036</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc5036</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great capacitors battle, thanks!

But for the V-cap, 200 hours breaking seem very light to judge it. It is often recommanded by those wich test it arround 400 hours minimum...and it could be sound a little warm after that on vocal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great capacitors battle, thanks!</p>
<p>But for the V-cap, 200 hours breaking seem very light to judge it. It is often recommanded by those wich test it arround 400 hours minimum&#8230;and it could be sound a little warm after that on vocal&#8230;</p>
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